Reading Schedule

And here's your reading schedule for the next week:

Due Monday, 8/29: "The Lottery" (Shirley Jackson)
Due Thursday, 9/1: "Teenage Wasteland" (Anne Tyler)
Due Tuesday, 9/6: "A Rose for Emily" (William Faulkner)

And of course, don't forget about your essay (due Wed.) or your vocab quiz (Fri.).

This Week's Assignment

By 6 P.M. on Sunday, September 4, you must post a response to the following question:

What is Shirley Jackson's message in "The Lottery"? Is it a short story about tradition? About conforming to others? Failure to speak up? Something more positive? What is the tone of the short story? How does the tone affect our understanding of Jackson's message?

In addition, you must comment on two of your classmates' entries.

Happy reading!

Womens rights

As i read the essay Ms.Noonan had given us, it made realize that women dont get the respect and the credit they deserve. Women have the same rights as men but because society revolves around mens power, women dont arent taken seriously. The thing that shocked me the most about Adrienne's essay, was that women werent taken serioulsy as students teacher. Being a student teacher wasnt an easy job, and women werent taken seriously because people, mostly men, had the same idea that women werent suppose to teach they were supposed to stay at home take care of the kids. The men in the society still have the same idea as in the old times. Her essay expressed her feelings towards men in such anger, she was tired of things being the same, and i agree with her. Men need to accept women as equals.

WOMEN NEED TO BE TAKING SERIOUSLY

I was a little surpised when i first started to read it. Then when i crossed the part where she spoke on women being abused, i didnt have so much as a huge reaction, but i did care. I don't know about everybody esle but i get tried of reading how women were sexually abused. So when i read that my reaction was a a sad, caring reaction. I also though of the Women Rights when they got up and did some to change when i crossed the part that said "At Yale a legal suit has been brouht against the university by a group of women demanding an explicit policy against sexual advances toward female students by male prfessors."

I toatally agree withAdrienne Rich's essay. It make wonder are the women in today's society still getting taugh unfairly. Though the essays was written years ago we as students can still agree if we look around. It makes me go by a saying that was in the essay, "I do not deserve to take up time and space."

-JaMya C

Adrienne Rich's essay

I agree with Adrienne's rich's essay in the aspect that women should be respected and at the same level as men. Women are definitely as capable to do anything a man is capable of. The essay upset me when Adrienne brought up situations in which women were abused and disrespected in he most humiliating and inappropriate ways. Now women are still discriminated at times eve though there are laws of equal treatment and whatnot. Even though there is respect written down as laws on paper does not mean that men will respect women. Adrienne Rich and I am sure a few others definitely made an impact on America because women have gained more power now then ever before. In both legal and social aspects.

Taking Women Students Seriously!

Adrienne Rich's essay was interesting because today people do not take women students seriously. I like when she talks about her high school teachers because they are not married but have college degrees, that shows us that women do not need a man by her side 24/7. Women can do anything a man can do. I agree that women still need to show society that we can do more than just getting married. We can get a career and have a family. I disagree when she mention that the world thinks men are smarter than women. That even though women and men get the same education, women are not even think of as being smart. When she mentioned rape of mind i noticed that its still going on right now. Women students are being harassed by their professors. Women feel humiliated because the professor is the one with the grades and they feel less than them. This still happens today, women been taken advantage of because society makes women are less than men even with the same education. Its a call to women that we can show society that we are worth more than men. The essay is a motivator for women to do something about the issue.

-By Mariana Diaz

Adrienne Rich's Essay.. Yeaa..

As I was reading this essay, it got more in depth about how women don't get treated equally when it comes to education. The main part I don't agree with is the part that said relationships are more important than having an education. To me, that's basically saying all women have to be dumb as doorknobs and stay home all day and night to cook, clean, watch the kids, etc. This ain't that! Stay at home wives are boring. You can't go to school right; what if your child needs help with his/her homework? You can't help because you don't know how to do it. I don't think it's fair. Then again, life isn't fair. That's the part that stuck out to me the most. Women can be smart and still be a good mother and wife. But being smart requires some type of schooling. I think men and women should get the same type of education. It's only right.

Ciera..

Rich's Essay (:

Rich's essay on "Taking Women Seriously" was amazing to me. She made a lot of good points that many people run away from. I loved how she talked about how when she was in high school she had women teachers who were independent and had a college degree but they still worked as just teachers because they were told they had to. Then when she went to college she barely ever had a female teacher, they were all male. This just shows how women arent equal to men in the work force. I also like how when she talked about "rape of the mind" this is something many people know but never talked about. I respect her for bringing it up they way she did. She points out how men try to sexual harrass women and women are afraid to deny it because it may effect their grade or their positon at work.This essay was great im glad she wrote it.

by: Chante' J. :)

The Adrienne Rich's Essay :)

In Adrienne Rich's essay "Taking Women Students Seriously" I felt really bad for the women in the 1900s. They felt that women couldn't do anything a man could do. Therefore men believe that their job was to cook, clean, and take care of their husband and children. They didn't give the same rights to women in education. Most of these women wanted to be independent and have their own lives with out a man. I agree that with the women who wanted to be independent and get a education with out having a man right behind them. I also agree tha women were not taking seriously because man believe it was a "MAN JOB" which is totally not true. Women can simply do any man job if they wanted to do it. I hate the fact that a lot of people sterotype that only certain things are for certain genders. If a man wanted to cook he can actually go and learn to cook.
When I was reading this essay it made me realize how important education is in the world. Many teens need to go to college so they won't depend on another man or woman to take care of them. Also by going to a all girls school gives us the benefit to learn about certain things that many schools are not learning about. Rich's love talking about this topic because she was the one who was trying to better her self in order to have success. We need to stop worrying about what men think about us and let them see that women can do it too. Lets get every man in the whole world scared about our success then maybe one day we they will realize we just as good as them.

=3= <--its a face

the essay was about that people should take women and women students seriously. she told us how women are looked down in the world. that outside women are looked at as prey. Also she tells that women teachers are usually single and independent but when she goes to college there are only male professors. Its lame that before people thought girls weren't that important only to me mother or not even graduate. Even if the men and the women are sitting in the same room learning, they aren't receiving the same. people didn't expect much of women as they did to men. it said that mostly men were scientist and they were white and racist. I think it isn't the same now as it was before now some women are getting higher grades in school than men. Many women have good paying jobs, some are even bosses and managers. But there are some jobs were men are paid more than women. Women should keep being strong and independent and if they are those things they will go far. who says men are the boss >.> ladies are the boss and men under there feet.

Adrienne Rich's essay made me angry at some point. Just thinking about how women would get raped or abused just by walking home. This still happens here today. It happens to boys and girls. Not only do they get raped but also get kidnapped and sometimes are even sold for money. I also didn't like the fact that the professor threatened the women with grades. I haft hear these kind of things happening now a days. I disagree with the fact that women and men weren't equal. Men were more educated then women, but women were more smarter. I do agree with women wanting to be independent. Many women are very independent and can accomplish many things on their own. That can also graduate from college and become a successful person.

Taking Women Students Seriously by Adrienne Rich

I found this article quite interesting and in a way surprised me as to how Rich was able to write about it with such anger and passion. If we notice at the bottom of the first page it says that this article was given to the New Jersey College and University Coalition on Women's Education in the year 1978. In my opinion, not a lot of women around this age would have been brave enough to write an article about taking women students serious for fear of oppression. Many women probably did not even know how to write because their were neglected from their studies or were probably always to busy doing what ever their husbands wanted them to do. Rich's life was different she knew something had to change and that is the main reason why she decided to write about it. I would consider her as a model to all the other women at the time, her essay should have been a way to encourage other women to get off their buts, stop washing dishes, stop having kids, get their life together and start studying! The sad part of this is that till this day not many women are being recognized for their hard studies, and it has been almost thirty four years since this has come out to the public. If I would have been a female student I would have loved to be friends with her and get a sense of what it felt like to be an independent women, and that was exactly the problem with many women. Since they were young they were probably taught that they were going to be the ones in charge of the house and kids while their husband brought the money to pay the bills and they would all live as a happy family, and what most did not know is that it did not all have to be like that. That is why while Rich was at school she never saw a woman in a lecture platform or in front of a class, and what Rich said was womens goal was to marry a Harvard graduate so that they could have a good future. To me that is ridiculous, when instead they can have better things in mind like doing better in life for the good of them and not to please others like their ignorant parents. Another thing I disagreed with was the fact that many women were getting raped only because stupid men thought of them as defenseless and less superior than them, it was just another simple girl to them.

Thank God Someone started to post so I can Comment -.-

          Rich's essay was mainly about the mistreatment of women in the area of education. When she was in high school she talked about how the vigorous female teachers would treat the girls differently, they would push them to doing more work, giving them extra research papers, taking them too art museums and assigning a second project. She talked about the fact that in her day of adolescence women who weren't married  were considered "old maids" but when she saw her unmarried teachers it made her change her point of view. Rich saw her teachers enjoying their life and not needing a man to depend on. I agree with this because of the fact that there are plenty of women who live on their own with their own job, living space, and sometimes her own child.
         When Rich graduated high school and went off to college she was excited about the fact that she would now be taught by great men, but the longer she stayed she soon realized that there weren't any women teachers, nobody talking in front and if one did they would only be there to talk about a paper about a specific subject. Rich talked about the fact that there won't be anyone to push her to do better. She also talked about the fact that the way that the teachers teach the students, male and female, is not right. In her day and even in our own history text books, they only focus on the male who discovered this or fought that. There are hardly any pages on women doing something for the world. I also agree with this because I looked in my history book (which I still have since no one bought it >...>)  and there was only one or two sections talking about how women did things or caused events that changed the world in a good way. I also agreed with the fact that the professors and how they won't be pushing you to succeed or try harder, but in this case its with both genders because from what I learned from our guest speaker today, they don't really care. But I do disagree with women not in front talking, because now we do, maybe back in Rich's day it was different but now we are getting even. We might still be a little under men but that sure as hell is about to change.

     

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Adrianne Rich's essay is a very influential passionate essay. Rich shows us the way society categorizes women that are smart enough to succeed without a mans help. For example, the manikins that portray sophisticated independent women are sad and chained up not being able to be free. Pictures like this made women think that being an independent unmarried woman meant living a depressing life because the only way to really be successful is to be married and having a family. This isn't true because the teachers she had in high school were single, independent successful, women that were perfectly happy the way they were.

Rich tries to show and prove that women are just as good as man. She doesn't want us to act like "men" she wants women to act like women showing that women have their own independent ideas and could be just as successful as man or even more successful then men. In order to do this women have to know the history of women and their struggles. They have to learn who and what women did not only in a women's history class but also in any other time to make it mainstream and socially accepted and respected.

Adrienne Rich Essay

The Adrienne Rich essay is mainly about how women are being mistreated in the world of education. Even though her essay was written in the late 60's early 70's many people may still relate to what the essay talks about. I generally believe in all the aspects that she mentions for example the one were she talks about how women who go to college are not really expected to graduate but find a good husband while studying. Even how she speaks about how professor's are able to manipulate women by threatening them with the grades. Though at the same time I don't think most men today still have the same aspect of life involving women. I believe that have yet to become more independent and prove to the world that they can do it on there own.

Just to Make Sure We're All Signed Up...

By 6 P.M. on Sunday, August 28, you must post a response to the following question:

What is your reaction to Adrienne Rich's essay? What did you agree with? Disagree with? Be as specific as possible.

In addition, you must comment on TWO of your classmates' entries.

Happy Blogging!